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The Cake and the icing
Posted By pmelcher On April 18, 2007 @ 7:49 am In flickr, photojournalism, wire service, corbis, getty | 9 Comments
Corbis: If I see one more article praising Steve Davis for the great work he has done at Corbis published in a major US newspaper, I will stop reading newspapers. After the declining New York Times ridiculous press release, it is time for the [1] Seattle PI to think that running a company for 10 years without a profit is a sign of intellectual prowess. And it is not if he didn’t try. Back in 1998, Corbis had announced that it would be profitable by 2000. And they said the same every year after that.([2] Here is an article from March 2006 saying they would be profitable in 2006). On a side note, even before taking officially his new position, Gary Shrenk, also known as Steve The Second, has fired half of the management team, in a show of respect to the old tradition set forth by his glorious predecessor. “The pope is dead, hail to the pope !”
Virginia Tech: As an old pro, I couldn’t not resist checking who would get what images from the shootings on their website. Getty took a while to get images on its website and at the end of the day ended up only with a few images taken after the actual events. WPN had the first images of the shooting or at least taken around the same time. Nothing very interesting, mostly images of policemen walking about with guns. I couldn’t check Polaris, because you need a name and password. Corbis had a edited down version of what Reuters had. After all, we all know that Reuters is really bad at editing. Atlaspressphoto had the best material and rather quickly right after Associated Press.
But really, what I wanted to see was two fold: The so called citizen journalistic reaction and if “alternative” licensing site would have anything. [3] Flickr members took a long time to upload anything and up to now have only limited images. Bad quality, not interesting. Scoopt.com did not appear to have anything of value as they had a picture of motorcycle racing accident as the picture of the day. French multimillion dollar Eyekea had nothing. On the pro side, neither Photoshelter nor Drr had anything either.
I believe it takes more than having a camera in your hands to take pictures. Although, I am sure, the great majority of students present had cell phones with camera in them, none took a picture.I wouldn’t have either, because the difference between a pro and an amateur is that the amateur will try to save his life first, while a pro will try to take pictures first. So much for citizen journalisms. If these sites fail to carry the same images that the photo agencies have and that professional image buyers are looking for, then they are nothing more than overpriced microstock platforms.
As I have had written before, there is much more to licensing images than just slapping a price on an image and posting them for sale. You have to either create or fulfill a particular demand. It is not the quantity of images that matters, it is the quality. In so far that quality is the relevance of the image to a particular need. Bakeries do not bake million of cakes in the hope that some will sell, they bake a few that they know people will purchase.
9 Comments To "The Cake and the icing"
#1 Comment By Joseph On April 18, 2007 @ April 18, 2007
>that the amateur will try to save his life first
I am happy they do. I don t care about very graphic pictures of such a tragedy. My thought goes to the families and I don t think it would be “citizen journalism” to post pictures of the tragedy.
Of course there is a market for such pictures but I don t think it is what those sites are designed for. “citizen journalism” is when someone in Beliorussia post a video of the local KGB changing the votes and threatening those who don’t want to run a fake election. “Citizen journalism” is when someone can make the information go through.
maybe I am wrong but we should not juge eyeka, flickr, scoopt (etc…) like that.
#2 Comment By Joseph On April 18, 2007 @ April 18, 2007
I mean pictures like that:
[4] http://flickr.com/photos/andrew_bisset/464310765/in/photostream/
Are more what I want to see as a media addict than anything else.
have a good evening
Joseph
#3 Comment By pmelcher On April 18, 2007 @ April 18, 2007
Joseph,
after the bus explosions in London, very graphic images where posted on Flickr. This made the majority of this profession think that amateurs with cellphone, being involved in the incidents, would have better coverage of the event itself.
It just didn’t happen to the extend of my knowledge.
You might not want to see images like that but, like war, it is the duty of a photojournalism to report what is going on, even if it is not pretty.
I was just making a point against those who scream very loudly that cellphone photo coverage is the future of photography.
#4 Comment By Thorben On April 19, 2007 @ April 19, 2007
Hello Paul,
I really enjoy reading your blog. But what is the story behind the almost weekly Corbis-bashing? Please satisfy the curiosity of your readers and let us have the full story.
Have a great day!
Thorben
#5 Comment By pmelcher On April 19, 2007 @ April 19, 2007
Dear Thorben,
I love photography, I am passionate about it. I love this business. Seeing incompetent people mismanage some of the worlds’ greatest images makes me sick. If you are in this industry, I am sure you can relate and understand. Incompetency makes me very upset. not you ?
#6 Comment By Joseph On April 20, 2007 @ April 20, 2007
“those who scream very loudly that cellphone photo coverage is the future of photography.”
:))
indeed. Then the example of Virgina Tech is really good to show that they are wrong. Photography and journalism need professionals. The raise of amateurs is important and bringing many changes. But marketing people are wrong when they pretend there wont be any pro left. Disastrous professionals may have more difficulties than they did in the past, but everyone need good professionals.
Thanks anyway for this witty blog.
Joseph
#7 Comment By Joseph On April 20, 2007 @ April 20, 2007
Again on Virginia Tech:
[5] http://www.poynter.org/content/content_view.asp?id=121781&sid=29
#8 Comment By Pino Granata On April 23, 2007 @ April 23, 2007
Dear Paul, to say the truth Steve Davis started running Corbis more than 10 years ago. I remember meeting him in New York at the beginning of 90′. I think that Steve has run Corbis for almost 20 years. Also I don’t think that Gary will run Corbis in a different way than Steve. We’ll see.
#9 Comment By pmelcher On April 23, 2007 @ April 23, 2007
Pino,
Steve Davis has been with Corbis 14 years in total and 10 as the CEO/President. I am only concerned about those years he was running the company, as he is fully accountable for them.
As for Gary, time will tell. Usuallty when a king chooses its successor, it is not a good sign, you are right
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[1] Seattle PI: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/311102_corbis11.html
[2] Here is an article from March 2006 saying they would be profitable in 2006: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2006/tc20060315_156691.htm
[3] Flickr members: http://www.flickr.com/groups/va-tech-shooting/pool/
[4] http://flickr.com/photos/andrew_bisset/464310765/in/photostream/: http://flickr.com/photos/andrew_bisset/464310765/in/photostream/
[5] http://www.poynter.org/content/content_view.asp?id=121781&sid=29: http://www.poynter.org/content/content_view.asp?id=121781&sid=29
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